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	<title>Comments on: The New York Times Review of The Cheater&#8217;s Guide to Baseball</title>
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		<title>By: Paul Cox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Cox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 19:26:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bouton is a little strange and people don&#039;t quite know how to react to him, either, so I suppose it makes senes that his review would be that way.

I think the problem with the review is that it&#039;s more about DMZ than it is about the book.  Bouton makes the mistake (well, in a book review, I think it&#039;s a mistake) of reading too much into the author from the writing, instead of just letting the writing speak for itself.

If we turn that same look onto Bouton&#039;s review, we note that he&#039;s got a few issues himself.  He&#039;s got the player&#039;s not-all-that-well-hidden disdain for fans who&#039;re really into the game.  And as Bob points out, it&#039;s funny that he&#039;s got a bit of an issue with bloggers.

I&#039;d also add that he seems a bit put out that someone&#039;s cranked out what Bouton sees as an &quot;instruction manual&quot; for cheating, considering that a huge part of the uproar over &quot;Ball Four&quot; was that he exposed secrets that were previously hidden.

I don&#039;t think it&#039;s a good review, or a bad review; I think it&#039;s barely even a &quot;review&quot;, because generally I expect reviews to tell us three main things:

1) whether or not the reviewer liked the book
2) whether or not the book was well-written
3) whether or not the book was entertaining.

Lots of reviewers will say a book is well-written (or well crafted) but not particularly entertaining; sometimes books can be entertaining but not all that well-written; and whether or not they actually *like* the book is a crapshoot.

Obviously getting the #2 and #3 factors right will help with #1.

Paul
Seattle, WA</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bouton is a little strange and people don&#8217;t quite know how to react to him, either, so I suppose it makes senes that his review would be that way.</p>
<p>I think the problem with the review is that it&#8217;s more about DMZ than it is about the book.  Bouton makes the mistake (well, in a book review, I think it&#8217;s a mistake) of reading too much into the author from the writing, instead of just letting the writing speak for itself.</p>
<p>If we turn that same look onto Bouton&#8217;s review, we note that he&#8217;s got a few issues himself.  He&#8217;s got the player&#8217;s not-all-that-well-hidden disdain for fans who&#8217;re really into the game.  And as Bob points out, it&#8217;s funny that he&#8217;s got a bit of an issue with bloggers.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d also add that he seems a bit put out that someone&#8217;s cranked out what Bouton sees as an &#8220;instruction manual&#8221; for cheating, considering that a huge part of the uproar over &#8220;Ball Four&#8221; was that he exposed secrets that were previously hidden.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t think it&#8217;s a good review, or a bad review; I think it&#8217;s barely even a &#8220;review&#8221;, because generally I expect reviews to tell us three main things:</p>
<p>1) whether or not the reviewer liked the book<br />
2) whether or not the book was well-written<br />
3) whether or not the book was entertaining.</p>
<p>Lots of reviewers will say a book is well-written (or well crafted) but not particularly entertaining; sometimes books can be entertaining but not all that well-written; and whether or not they actually *like* the book is a crapshoot.</p>
<p>Obviously getting the #2 and #3 factors right will help with #1.</p>
<p>Paul<br />
Seattle, WA</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Montgomery</title>
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		<dc:creator>Bob Montgomery</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 04 Apr 2007 15:28:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Weird that the guy who wrote &quot;Ball Four&quot; comes across as such an old, crotchety, insider who hates these new-fangled &quot;bloggers&quot; who think they know anything about baseball.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Weird that the guy who wrote &#8220;Ball Four&#8221; comes across as such an old, crotchety, insider who hates these new-fangled &#8220;bloggers&#8221; who think they know anything about baseball.</p>
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		<title>By: terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2007 12:35:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hopefully, the Times review will get people over to Amazon...where the reviews so far are very, very good,,,  :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hopefully, the Times review will get people over to Amazon&#8230;where the reviews so far are very, very good,,,  <img src='http://www.cheatersguidetobaseball.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: John Beamer</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Beamer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2007 07:16:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It is certainly unclear what his position is. A strange review ... I&#039;m not sure he respects you that much as both an outsider and a blogger.

This line in the review is particularly odd:

In “The Worst Thing Ever to Happen to Baseball,” Zumsteg discusses the Black Sox scandal, a story more fully recounted elsewhere in real books.

Also it&#039;s clear he doesn&#039;t have a great sense of humor either -- I&#039;m probbaly the only person who found Ball Four to be a bit of a snooze fest!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It is certainly unclear what his position is. A strange review &#8230; I&#8217;m not sure he respects you that much as both an outsider and a blogger.</p>
<p>This line in the review is particularly odd:</p>
<p>In “The Worst Thing Ever to Happen to Baseball,” Zumsteg discusses the Black Sox scandal, a story more fully recounted elsewhere in real books.</p>
<p>Also it&#8217;s clear he doesn&#8217;t have a great sense of humor either &#8212; I&#8217;m probbaly the only person who found Ball Four to be a bit of a snooze fest!</p>
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		<title>By: terry</title>
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		<dc:creator>terry</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2007 02:56:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m thinking he didn&#039;t like it so much and he&#039;s probably not going to buy you a beer either...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m thinking he didn&#8217;t like it so much and he&#8217;s probably not going to buy you a beer either&#8230;</p>
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