Comments for The Cheater's Guide to Baseball Blog http://www.cheatersguidetobaseball.com Baseball, Cheating, and Rules discussion at the author's blog for the Cheater's Guide to Baseball Sat, 06 Sep 2008 03:08:45 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 Comment on Cameron’s stimulant suspension, advance drug test notification by joser http://www.cheatersguidetobaseball.com/2007/10/31/camerons-stimulant-suspension-advance-drug-test-notification/#comment-1100 joser Fri, 07 Dec 2007 06:29:21 +0000 http://www.cheatersguidetobaseball.com/2007/10/31/camerons-stimulant-suspension-advance-drug-test-notification/#comment-1100 If <a href="http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hdrYWEGe8kdnhjVT8TNfOOj6_CRAD8TBJ3BO3" rel="nofollow">this</a> holds up, we may need to be a little less skeptical of the "supplements" defense: <blockquote> One quarter of dietary supplements purchased in a recent sampling contained traces of steroids and 11.5 percent had banned stimulants, according to a study to determine whether supplements sold across the United States are really clean. </blockquote> If this holds up, we may need to be a little less skeptical of the “supplements” defense:

One quarter of dietary supplements purchased in a recent sampling contained traces of steroids and 11.5 percent had banned stimulants, according to a study to determine whether supplements sold across the United States are really clean.

]]> Comment on Cameron’s stimulant suspension, advance drug test notification by Adam http://www.cheatersguidetobaseball.com/2007/10/31/camerons-stimulant-suspension-advance-drug-test-notification/#comment-1088 Adam Sun, 11 Nov 2007 13:45:52 +0000 http://www.cheatersguidetobaseball.com/2007/10/31/camerons-stimulant-suspension-advance-drug-test-notification/#comment-1088 As a protection measure, why doesn't the MLBPA tell players to save a small portion of any supplement they take so they can use it as proof of innocence? Of course, this wouldn't work if you were actually doping, but it would help prove unintentional consumption. As a protection measure, why doesn’t the MLBPA tell players to save a small portion of any supplement they take so they can use it as proof of innocence? Of course, this wouldn’t work if you were actually doping, but it would help prove unintentional consumption.

]]> Comment on The trick “Rainbow Play” by dave grosky http://www.cheatersguidetobaseball.com/2007/05/03/the-trick-rainbow-play/#comment-1087 dave grosky Fri, 09 Nov 2007 06:31:26 +0000 http://www.cheatersguidetobaseball.com/2007/05/03/the-trick-rainbow-play/#comment-1087 The game of baseball has many many rules, and many of them are to keep the game as fair as possible. The spirit of the game is the integrity! Remember it is not whether you win or lose it is how you played the game.Running a trick play is cheating you may have gotten away with it, but the pure satisfaction of a win by playing as hard as possible and playing the game with fairness is lost. This play is the same as the fielder pretending to catch the ball to get the runner to slide, or the first basemen holding the ball and the pitcher pretend to have it.It is all the same to trick,double-cross,deceive or mislead. I would have stopped the game calling 'time out" then called the runner out and then turned and called the batter out, and last but not least turned to you coach and yelled, "AND YOU COACH YOUR OUT OF HERE TOO" DAVE UMPIRE DIST.23 The game of baseball has many many rules, and many of them are to keep the game as fair as possible. The spirit of the game is the integrity! Remember it is not whether you win or lose it is how you played the game.Running a trick play is cheating you may have gotten away with it, but the pure satisfaction of a win by playing as hard as possible and playing the game with fairness is lost. This play is the same as the fielder pretending to catch the ball to get the runner to slide, or the first basemen holding the ball and the pitcher pretend to have it.It is all the same to trick,double-cross,deceive or mislead. I would have stopped the game calling ‘time out” then called the runner out and then turned and called the batter out, and last but not least turned to you coach and yelled, “AND YOU COACH YOUR OUT OF HERE TOO”

DAVE
UMPIRE DIST.23

]]> Comment on Billy Martin biography inventory by Bob Andelman http://www.cheatersguidetobaseball.com/2007/08/24/billy-martin-biography-inventory/#comment-1085 Bob Andelman Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:08:48 +0000 http://www.cheatersguidetobaseball.com/2007/08/24/billy-martin-biography-inventory/#comment-1085 You might be interested in this audio interview with Peter Golenbock: http://www.mrmedia.com/2007/03/fridays-with-mr-media-peter-golenbock7.html . Thanks! Bob You might be interested in this audio interview with Peter Golenbock: http://www.mrmedia.com/2007/03/fridays-with-mr-media-peter-golenbock7.html .
Thanks!
Bob

]]> Comment on Howard Bryant’s ESPN article on steroids and the Mitchell Report by Howard bryant http://www.cheatersguidetobaseball.com/2007/09/14/howard-bryants-espn-article-on-steroids-and-the-mitchell-report/#comment-1074 Howard bryant Tue, 23 Oct 2007 11:36:03 +0000 http://www.cheatersguidetobaseball.com/2007/09/14/howard-bryants-espn-article-on-steroids-and-the-mitchell-report/#comment-1074 Great web site. The points are good ones, but I believe that the two scandals are damning on equal, though different levels and in the end, I think the drug scandal is worse. In 1920, Hal Chase, the White Sox and numerous other scandals indeed forced baseball's hand due to the potential economic calamity. Baseball *had* to do something with its sport in 1920. The Black Sox scandal, in its own way, improved the product, a political scandal that cleaned out the dirt. Even the people in the game (owners) who in many ways benefited from gambling the same way the owners today did from steroids, came out of the Black Sox scandal better for it. Steroids isn't so simple a matter, and nobody has come out of this scandal viewed in higher public regard. The difference is in the cynicism of today's leadership that because fans continued to attend the sport, the damage to the game is somehow minimized. This is why steroids are worse, because though showing no outward signs of disease, the body is dying from within. People don't believe in the game's power as they once did. Gambling in many cases, was easier, because its danger _ people were buying fewer tickets _ was more obvious. The devaluing of the HR record in its own way undermined the victory of management following the Black Sox. Baseball's place, its standing in the (sports) world is what has been lost (sound familiar?) The question that has not died is this: "Can you have an economic renaissance and a moral catastrophe at the same time? Which vision wins?" There was no such dilemma in 1920. What needed to be done was clear. Baseball today more resembles an inflated stock. The black sox scandal is only worse than steroids if you assume that MLB can only be judged by revenues and nothing more. Great web site. The points are good ones, but I believe that the two scandals are damning on equal, though different levels and in the end, I think the drug scandal is worse. In 1920, Hal Chase, the White Sox and numerous other scandals indeed forced baseball’s hand due to the potential economic calamity.

Baseball *had* to do something with its sport in 1920. The Black Sox scandal, in its own way, improved the product, a political scandal that cleaned out the dirt. Even the people in the game (owners) who in many ways benefited from gambling the same way the owners today did from steroids, came out of the Black Sox scandal better for it. Steroids isn’t so simple a matter, and nobody has come out of this scandal viewed in higher public regard.

The difference is in the cynicism of today’s leadership that because fans continued to attend the sport, the damage to the game is somehow minimized. This is why steroids are worse, because though showing no outward signs of disease, the body is dying from within. People don’t believe in the game’s power as they once did. Gambling in many cases, was easier, because its danger _ people were buying fewer tickets _ was more obvious. The devaluing of the HR record in its own way undermined the victory of management following the Black Sox. Baseball’s place, its standing in the (sports) world is what has been lost (sound familiar?) The question that has not died is this: “Can you have an economic renaissance and a moral catastrophe at the same time? Which vision wins?” There was no such dilemma in 1920. What needed to be done was clear. Baseball today more resembles an inflated stock. The black sox scandal is only worse than steroids if you assume that MLB can only be judged by revenues and nothing more.

]]> Comment on Varitek pine tarring his fingers by DMZ http://www.cheatersguidetobaseball.com/2007/10/17/varitek-pine-tarring-his-fingers/#comment-1073 DMZ Tue, 23 Oct 2007 04:18:27 +0000 http://www.cheatersguidetobaseball.com/2007/10/17/varitek-pine-tarring-his-fingers/#comment-1073 Oh, the footage is great - Varitek looks like he's been caught shoplifting or something. It's hilarious to watch. Oh, the footage is great - Varitek looks like he’s been caught shoplifting or something. It’s hilarious to watch.

]]> Comment on Varitek pine tarring his fingers by Lance Elroy http://www.cheatersguidetobaseball.com/2007/10/17/varitek-pine-tarring-his-fingers/#comment-1069 Lance Elroy Thu, 18 Oct 2007 14:55:23 +0000 http://www.cheatersguidetobaseball.com/2007/10/17/varitek-pine-tarring-his-fingers/#comment-1069 I did notice that Varitek wears nice white batting gloves when he was hitting, so no use for pine tar on his bare hands for hitting. I used to be a catcher in college, but never pulled the pine tar trick for the Pitcher. I just wanted you to be aware of it because Varitek looked real spooked when the camera turned on. He shut the pine tar rag immediately when the camera turned on, it was clear he was rubbing pine tar on his throwing hand. I'm with you though, not sure it was for the advantage of the pitcher, maybe it was just to assist Jason for throwing, but it caught my eye and looked strange. I did notice that Varitek wears nice white batting gloves when he was hitting, so no use for pine tar on his bare hands for hitting. I used to be a catcher in college, but never pulled the pine tar trick for the Pitcher. I just wanted you to be aware of it because Varitek looked real spooked when the camera turned on. He shut the pine tar rag immediately when the camera turned on, it was clear he was rubbing pine tar on his throwing hand. I’m with you though, not sure it was for the advantage of the pitcher, maybe it was just to assist Jason for throwing, but it caught my eye and looked strange.

]]> Comment on Manny Corpas cheating in the playoffs! by M's Fan in CO Exile http://www.cheatersguidetobaseball.com/2007/10/04/manny-corpas-cheating-in-the-playoffs/#comment-1065 M's Fan in CO Exile Mon, 08 Oct 2007 17:06:59 +0000 http://www.cheatersguidetobaseball.com/2007/10/04/manny-corpas-cheating-in-the-playoffs/#comment-1065 prl -really, that's your comment? I understood the joke, and my wording was just fine for the point I was making. I am actually sort of surprised you were able to draw upon several multisyllabic words to make your entirely irrelevant point. By the way, Derek, Corpas appeared to go to his shirt less often while pitching last game. I guess that's not surprising given the attention he knew was on him, but if he dumped somthing on himself this time, he did it during a bathroom break or something. Admittedly, I was focused on the game, so I might have missed something. prl -really, that’s your comment? I understood the joke, and my wording was just fine for the point I was making. I am actually sort of surprised you were able to draw upon several multisyllabic words to make your entirely irrelevant point.

By the way, Derek, Corpas appeared to go to his shirt less often while pitching last game. I guess that’s not surprising given the attention he knew was on him, but if he dumped somthing on himself this time, he did it during a bathroom break or something. Admittedly, I was focused on the game, so I might have missed something.

]]> Comment on Manny Corpas cheating in the playoffs! by TIF http://www.cheatersguidetobaseball.com/2007/10/04/manny-corpas-cheating-in-the-playoffs/#comment-1064 TIF Sun, 07 Oct 2007 03:21:39 +0000 http://www.cheatersguidetobaseball.com/2007/10/04/manny-corpas-cheating-in-the-playoffs/#comment-1064 Wouldn't have been an issue if he didn't repeatedly touch that spot later. Wouldn’t have been an issue if he didn’t repeatedly touch that spot later.

]]> Comment on Manny Corpas cheating in the playoffs! by Ryne http://www.cheatersguidetobaseball.com/2007/10/04/manny-corpas-cheating-in-the-playoffs/#comment-1063 Ryne Fri, 05 Oct 2007 22:56:07 +0000 http://www.cheatersguidetobaseball.com/2007/10/04/manny-corpas-cheating-in-the-playoffs/#comment-1063 Yeah, I was wondering what Joe Nathan cheating he was referring to as well... Yeah, I was wondering what Joe Nathan cheating he was referring to as well…

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